April 22, 2024

VR News - PCVR Here We Come! Dungeons of Eternity, The Light Brigade, Walkabout Mini Golf New DLC, New VR Games, Updates, and More!

On this episode of the Ruff Talk VR podcast we have another edition of VR News! We have plenty to discuss this week including us finally placing orders for PCVR capable computers! Walkabout Mini Golf also announced their next DLC course Passport Venice! Also we saw some hidden features drop in Quest v64. Improvements in the YouTube VR app. As well a bunch of VR game updates like Dungeons of Eternity and The Light Brigade, new VR games like Big Shots VR, and more!

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Welcome to another episode of Rough Talk VR, a weekly podcast with in-depth game reviews, exclusive developer interviews and the latest metaquest and virtual reality news.

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We join our hosts, the Father-Son team of D Scruffles and Stratus, today as they spend another episode breaking down and discussing the world of virtual reality.

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Hey, welcome to this episode of Rough Talk VR, kicking it off this week with another edition of VR News.

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We're also having a great interview dropping on Wednesday.

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That was so much fun to record, yeah wiki cool dude.

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Yeah, high energy, to say the least, that's a good way to put it.

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We're talking with Joe Halper from Nope Challenge on Wednesday, but today we're talking news all the latest and greatest in the world of vr and the big thing to kick it off this week.

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It's not really any news that you'll find news in vr ever yeah, it's not any news.

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You'll find on upload vr or road to vr.

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I don't think they're blowing up our emails or anything like that.

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But for us personally, thanks to the support of our patreon supporters, anybody that's donated on YouTube, a little bit of ad revenue Spoon coming in with a huge love bomb as well A nuclear bomb.

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You know everybody that's helped support us.

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We have been able now to order two PCVR ready computers.

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They're nice machines too man.

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Well, we don't have them yet.

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We don't have them yet Scheduled to come in this week.

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On paper they're nice machines, man Well, we don't have them yet.

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We don't have them yet Scheduled to come in this week On paper.

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They're nice machines, to say the least, coming in well, technically, yours tomorrow and then mine the next day.

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Theoretically should be able to run just about anything.

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I think the only thing that might give us a challenge still is Microsoft Flight Sim at full setting, because I've heard that melt anything in the world.

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But you know, because I've heard that melt anything in the world, but we should be able to have some fun for the coming years, to say the least.

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Every review I've read on a video card is pretty damn good.

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And look, our podcast is going to remain pretty much the same.

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We're quest-focused.

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Yeah, here's how I see it, though.

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So let's just say Ghost of Tabor, right, I probably will play it PC VR more than not right or better fucking Grimm.

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Mm-hmm.

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I have full intentions of I want the absolute best, but I'm still going to, you know play standalone Walkabout Minigolf.

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Is it worth it to set up PC VR just for?

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No, there's no reason to.

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It's just there's certain games that I want in it.

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I personally feel like, depending on how frame rates go versus standalone, it's like you might have a little bit of an advantage on PC VR versus standalone.

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I can't argue.

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To me it's more than the new content being able to be made.

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Like I said, podcasts probably can remain the same 99.9% the same.

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It's now with the community things.

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You know, there are times where in the Discord, people would be meeting up for games and we couldn't partake because it's BCVR only, or just to understand what's going on in that world.

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Those titles, you know, support that side of things.

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I think it's important for us even if we don't cover it for content.

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I also want the ability to win some things cross by that we can say legitimately like hey, to be totally honest, there wasn't that much of a difference between the two.

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Or, and we'll say, like an after the fall type situation, because we already know after the fall looks.

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That's what people keep saying.

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That's the number one to compare.

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That's the word on the street, just to be able to say, when we do discuss something, if we've been able to play it on both, like how the visual compares, because we still want to focus all our attention on standalone.

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So it's a great opportunity and it's something.

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My computer's name is Spoonmelia yeah, that's no joke.

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I was joking because when I gave a shout out to everyone in the Discord who's supported donated part of the Patreon, all that I didn't put Crispy and Shoes right next to each other.

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So Shoes was like oh, it's weird to not see Crispy, shoes Crispy.

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Shoes.

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And I was like well, I kind of feel like that's what I gotta name, name the rig, that's what you'll name it.

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I don't know 100, but it would be funny.

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Spoon, spoon melia spoonelia, spoonelia.

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That was it, yeah spoonelia.

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I laughed when you sent that, yeah, I want to get a little happy looking spoon a little sticker to put on it right, something like that it's?

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I think it's dessert no but our two biggest supporters and getting pc vr so you know, no excuses now for not being able to check out a title or explore a certain thing.

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It's going to be great for our personal exploration and knowledge of the world of vr, but also now for community stuff, like I said, meeting up with people and production as well yeah side of it too.

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I mean it's designed for.

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Last week recording on this laptop right, Theoretically, which dude.

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I mean that would have probably been the quickest way to a PC would have just to really show pictures of what we're working with.

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It's falling apart right now.

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I can't shut it.

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It's in tough shape.

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I can't shut it.

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Well, you can.

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It won't open again Correct Ever If I shut it.

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The next time it shuts is the last time yeah it'll never work.

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The next time it shuts is the last time it ever shuts.

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You're going to open it.

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You're going to crack, crack, crack, crack crack.

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Pieces of the frame are going to come popping out everywhere, spitting out plastic everywhere.

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But I'll give the little buddy his chicken.

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He's got a little buddy.

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Functionally, he's doing his thing.

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What we've asked of it is incredible.

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It's so extensive, for what?

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it can offer.

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So what we can plug into now in the studio is going to be like I don't think that'll make any quality difference or anything, but it will speed up editing and stuff like that too.

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Yeah, so it's an overall I'm excited.

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Stuff like that too.

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Yeah, so it's an overall I'm excited.

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Thank you to everybody that supported us.

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I'm freaking excited.

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Are you kidding me?

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Yeah, we got some PC VR baby.

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I'm off on Wednesday too.

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Knock on wood.

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Wow, so Mine's theoretically going to come Tuesday, yours Wednesday.

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Yeah, I don't believe it until it's in my hands.

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I'm going to to dive into it until the weekend, next weekend.

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Yeah, man, there's going to be a lot to figure out.

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Maybe I'll play Undisputed Boxing, the flat screen boxing game.

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Figuring out flat screen is going to be no brainer.

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I'm going to plug that shit in download Steam and there we go.

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Yeah, I was like there's nothing in my Steam library.

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That would even cause this thing to take me serious.

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I mean, I have Microsoft Flight, but flat screen it's not going to max out to any stretch.

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But yeah, no, there's a learning curve coming our way.

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I'm sure I'm just excited I just want to get my hands on it and you know I still got locale issues of how exactly this is going to be set up.

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Right now, a router's in a different room Upstairs I'm downstairs playing.

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Experimenting.

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Like I said, I'm not expecting anything until the weekend, but it's going to be a fun week.

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I feel like a kid waiting for Christmas.

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It's like is it Tuesday yet?

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Is it.

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Tuesday, yet it's also a door opener in some cases there's been.

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I mean full disclosure, right, Because we're pretty transparent, but there's been games that developers have wanted us to try, but it's on Steam first, not directly on App Lab.

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Yet it sucks because some of them were pretty freaking good.

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So what you're saying now is this is a benefit to the whole VR community, right?

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I told you it's epic news here, man.

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But no, in all seriousness, it's a game changer.

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No pun intended yeah.

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I'm excited to dive into it.

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Really, it's going to be a challenge between exploring new titles that I couldn't access before and also, yeah, comparing ones that I have played.

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But you know I want to compare the difference in the two.

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So good times ahead for us.

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I'm excited to try that.

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I've heard it's not great, but I don't care to try that.

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Yeah, I've heard it's not great, but I don't care.

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You know, I heard it wasn't great.

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We were day one-ers.

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Thanks to you, I bought that fucking game.

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Day one too.

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I was angry at you for a little while.

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Yeah, I got a day one as well too.

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Don't worry, you sold me that game, is what you before they sold me.

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They lied to me.

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I mean look the games come around now, but I'll never buy a game for them at launch.

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Again, fool me once I mean, we should have known it was some pretty remarkable you should hear them hyping up their next game oh no what is it?

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unbelievably ambitious.

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Well, I'm like, fool me, once I'll buy, I'll get it a year they went into hiding.

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That's the thing you know, you?

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You f up.

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At least be straight with me.

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Dude gamers, so they have to go into hiding.

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Now we we know developers have gotten death threats.

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Yeah, so who knows what was going into their?

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inbox and the masses that bought that with the expectation of what to.

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But here's the thing.

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I'm not going to lie, dude.

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I always liked it, so, even in the early days.

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I don't.

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I played it maybe like a weekend and was like wow, I think I just did everything.

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Really.

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Oh no man.

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I tried flying to the center of the universe because I heard it could be done.

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And then, obviously and I was naming planets everywhere because I'm like, I'm the only person in the universe that named this planet I loved that aspect of it.

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This planet, I loved that aspect of it.

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So, even though it was probably limited to that and repetitive plant mining, we'll say or planet mining.

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No, I'm excited to check it out in VR, though.

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Same with Star Wars squadrons, all those things.

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I have those on my library.

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Oh, what's the?

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other, the flying one.

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It was put in our discord too.

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It was one of the ones that um.

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I own it.

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Flat screen too.

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It's a great flying game, dude, don't remember.

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Oh, it's gonna drive me crazy but whatever, yeah, so I'm excited for that.

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One squadrons is.

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I have that for xbox, I think don't play as much as I thought I would.

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Well different in vr, though I'm excited to check it out.

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So, besides the news of us getting PC VR, it was kind of cool to see B-Haptics, known for obviously their haptic devices probably the leader in.

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VR haptic devices too.

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It's the name you think of.

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Actually even a sponsor of this episode.

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You'll hear a little ad read for them later in this episode when we take a break midway through.

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But it was announced last week that they are now officially a made-for-meta partner and their Taksu Haptic Vests.

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They're 20% off until April 28th to celebrate this.

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So you got pretty much a week.

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Yeah, you got a week.

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Take advantage of that 20%.

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But they're the name that, when you hear Haptic Fest, that's the one that you're going to go to.

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And I'll give B-Haptics a lot of credit too, because a lot of these, I guess, VR accessory devices are PC VR only kind of back to our dilemma that we were on before being standalone.

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But B-Haptics, it's natively compatible with the Quest and there's so many games on the quest library that are compatible with b haptics I have a feeling it's about to get more, more intense.

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Yeah now that they're officially made for meta, now that their official partner, I think.

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I to me.

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I mean selfishly, because we're quest users.

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Um, I think it's fantastic, dudes.

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Not that you couldn't use it before, but now if there's being specifically made in partnership with meta.

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Come on, man, you got two fantastic companies.

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It's just going to be some cool shit coming yeah, and they have two, two models of the tax suit.

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You know they have a more budget-friendly one and then a more higher end one.

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If you want to go that route, you, you know, much like the Quest, right.

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So it's cool to see, though, a nice sale too 20% off, if you've ever been thinking about getting it.

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That's a good chunk.

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That's probably the time to do it.

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I don't.

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In all of our time of podcasting, man, I feel like I've only seen B haptics go on a good sale a handful of times.

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it's not something they do often no, I've definitely seen them promoted a lot.

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The reviews on them are always freaking.

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Everybody loves their stuff, exactly they sell more than the vest.

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That's just what's on sale.

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I mean that's like discounted that's one of the biggest selfish wishes when we started in vr was haptics and haptics man.

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It just makes sense, just like when they can really really master, you know, thin gloves that have pressure points.

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So when you grab a board or a, pipe or a gun.

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They do have haptic gloves.

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I know, be haptics, I'm just saying Be haptics has.

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so, man what?

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I'll give them crap, though I think the only thing they don't have is head, like I've seen, like they have the arms and that's kind of a beef of mine, man, because you get shot in the head so much you know I'm peek my head around a corner and in ghosts of tabor.

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What do you think?

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I'm getting shot in the chest?

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No, I'm getting shot in the head.

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It'll even say it.

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Or what about when you shoot people in the head.

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You know I love myself a good headshot.

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Just last night we were playing ghosts a little bandana, a little thing.

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Just last night we were playing Ghost of Tabor.

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I shoot an NPC from a good distance and I got him right in the eyeball.

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I was so proud of it.

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Oh yeah, I see you.

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I was covering off to the right and I see you come running over dragging him.

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Behind you I go.

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What are you?

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doing.

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I got to show you, look where I got him.

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I remember that I hung them out the window, yeah, of the building.

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We're using scarecrow decoys just hanging out, arms flapping.

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Oh man, I love, I love to bore dude.

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That was a good raid too.

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Yeah, that's gonna be a good one to use be haptics with.

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But I get exactly what you're saying because I do get shot in the head.

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Contractor showdowns that'll be thrill the fight.

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I'm gonna go into thrill.

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I get a haptic vest.

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I'm gonna go into thrill the fights with my hands up like this.

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It's over my head, but blocking my face and just letting people let the NPC rip the body.

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You know.

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I got to restart playing Thrill of the Fight because we got challenged for when the second one comes out.

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It was for when the second one comes out, not for Creed.

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I don't think it was for Creed.

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I thought it was for when Thrill of the second one comes out, not for creed.

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I don't think it was for creed.

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I thought it was for when throw the fight two comes out okay I'm down for that.

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Give me some train time.

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My shoulder's been acting up a bit, so that gives me some some practice time.

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Man, one time we did creed multiplayer, me and you now granted, yeah, these days creed has an endurance mode on it, because back when we played creed there was like the built-in stamina yeah, so your character could run out of stamina.

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Now it's still like that, but they have a different game mode as well, called endurance, so you can set it.

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So there is no in-game stamina, only your real stamina.

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You're the stamina.

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But back back then we had played it pvp style and there's the the in-game stamina.

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I'm not going to say that that's the excuse.

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I just want to put that fact out there as well.

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But you gave me the two-piece and the biscuit.

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You lit me up.

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The whole family meal actually Lit me up real good.

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I'm sitting there, you know, because you've got to swing your arms to come back.

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I'm like what the hell, man?

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I think my character just ran out of stamina.

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Real bad, though, because I feel good, you know.

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I was pretty proud of myself.

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Yeah, you lit me up.

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We've never played it again, since that was very early in us having VR too.

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So yeah, we've accepted the challenge for Jay Brat.

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Jokingly.

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Well, he didn't call us out, he was interviewing somebody and they go who would you box?

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It's no joke, I accepted on the YouTube comment and it was acknowledged, so it's a done deal.

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We've got to make Rocky Balboa training montages.

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I believe we called it a legal document at that point.

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I've got signed acknowledgement.

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No, I'm just talking shit.

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I'm hyping it up, jake Pauling it.

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Yeah, no, I loved the idea when we heard about it.

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I'm down for it.

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I'm like you know what, If it's really going to be Thrill of the Fight 2, there should be a whole creator tournament as well.

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Like a 16-man, woman, person, 16-person, 16-person.

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Yeah, thrill of the Fight tournament, because that's the beauty of, and it's true with the fighting games and VRs, it doesn't matter.

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Your true weight class isn't going to dictate.

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So you could be 90 pounds Probably might actually be a benefit because of fast hands Speed.

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There's no way Lightning speed jab Headsets don't pick up power.

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So you could be 4'11", but your fighter is potentially 5'8", 5'10".

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Imagine the power that the headset registers like a Floyd Mayweather jab has.

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Just because it's so fast, headset probably can't even try it.

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I don't think you could track it the controller tracking probably true fist, you wouldn't think right, because that's dude, that's fast, like, especially like a, a pull in in and out jab and nothing might happen.

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You know, like you threw a legit knockout jab and the character just stand there like never saw the hand move, but thrill the fight one, the one that's currently out now, the first game I bought in vr.

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I mean I watched thrill the fight for years before I got a headset.

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Always wanted it just because I love it's a great game.

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I love combat sport games so much.

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Boxing games.

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The ufc game so thrill.

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The fight was a must buy to me and I love it, but there's no multiplayer in it and two's been in the works for a while now and they're tight-lipped on it.

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Z loss interactive two has been announced since we started this podcast and they have said jack about.

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They haven't said anything but we know it's going to be multiplayer they have said that there's going to be multiplayer and it will be boxing.

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Yes, and there will be improved on the first one, and they picked up a publisher, like a year ago, and that's about all we've gotten.

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But it's in the works.

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Do you speculate that?

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they have hand tracking.

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So it's funny you say that At the time that when I first got through the fight one, you know, when we first got the quest too, he was asked about hand tracking.

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The answer was what was logical at the time that the hand tracking's not at the point to be able to pick it up, because of speed and stuff.

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We're talking about the controllers maybe struggling to track a pro boxer's hand speed, let alone the hand tracking three years ago Now, I mean Dude they got to at least be experimenting with it, right.

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Because the boxing game that can come out with the hand tracking oh dude, that's when they can give you the gloves that guy's got to have made a couple mil off of Thriller the fight.

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It's such a big game.

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A couple Jared Cannoneer, ufc top UFC middleweight.

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He uses it to cut weight.

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Dana White's endorsed it so much, I know right.

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And it's so fairly priced $9.99.

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I would go on a limb and maybe I'm way off, but I would say over $10 mil.

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Well, let's think though, $9.99.

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30% to matter, that becomes $7.

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And then taxes.

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So he's probably walking away with, like what?

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$4 per game.

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He's been around forever though $4 per game.

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He's been around forever, though $4 per game, so he would have had to sell like what?

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2 mil, just like 2.5 mil, to hit 10 mil, 2.5 mil units.

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I mean it's possible.

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It's a lot, though, yeah.

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I think he sold.

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I'd wager, at least you know.

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3 mil.

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I'd prefer to just assume he got the 9.99 it just sucks.

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When you break it down, start to break it down yeah, with the store cut and then taxes.

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How much actually more you have to sell to hit part of the struggle when any business companies have to come up with the prices for something 30 is a hefty cut of any.

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That's how every storefront is and what did you spend to make it?

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And if you got a factor in, you know only four dollars for a ten dollar game.

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you can see why developers lean towards pricing things 15.

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That's where the 420, 25.

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If a developer just came right out and said look I, my game is nine 99.

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All right, but I'm going to have to charge you 1499 so I can get my nine 99.

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Yeah, I totally I'd buy that Like just the full honesty that, look, pay a little extra, so I don't.

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You know, I get my cut back.

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Still have to give my cut.

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I'm just asking you to pay the extra $5 of it and then you're ready beyond that, 30% and shit.

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Then you have an unconsensual, non-opt-in-able 25% referral.

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Hit that can come out of your game at any point.

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That comes at your end of things too.

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It's like it can be tough out there.

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I can see why developers lean on a higher price at times.

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But you know what's crazy?

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We are here from BHaptics, right, am I crazy?

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We were talking about BHaptics and we ended up on this.

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Things happen because there's B-Haptics support with Thrill the Fight.

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If you go to B-Haptics' website, they do a great job showing the full catalog of games that they have support for.

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You can filter it by, you know, console and computer games, because it's not only VR.

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Then you can also filter it by PC VR only games and then you can filter it by standalone VR only games, which again is huge that you can even.

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It's very easy to find the games that support it.

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So we'll do one more piece of news, because it's kind of related to this, and we'll take an ad break before we forget, because we're in a rambly, jambly mood.

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But Dungeons of Eternity they announced what their next update's going to be.

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I mean, they've done a great job, staying active with the game.

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They're staying true to their roadmap.

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So I'm I'm I mean, I got faith they're gonna keep doing everything they ever said they would do, and then some and they've done a great job listening to the community, what the community wants.

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Even when they were doing that christmas event remember that, that limited time event with the items they ended it early, based off of community feedback, because people felt it was going on too long.

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They just wanted the back, the normal game back, and boom, they listened, as you said, they put out this roadmap at the start.

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They stayed true to it.

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Really good job and I mean even to that.

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They won game of the year from us for our awards and then I don't think we went back into it to like what late february, and when we went into it we're like holy shit, there's a lot of new rooms.

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Things felt improved even then.

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In their next update it's bringing two-handed weapons, like two-handed swords, so that's goinghanded swords, so that's going to be pretty epic.

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It's going to bring 25-plus new room varieties as well.

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That's cool.

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Yeah, that was something like I said when we went in, after not being in a couple months, I noticed some new rooms.

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So to have 25-plus more variety of them, that's huge.

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And then it's also going to have a new difficulty mode, which is good, because we've been playing it again and the last couple times.

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You know we've stormed through the last difficulty.

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We only play it on the hardest, hardest difficulty.

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And very rarely do we do we lose, unless, like freak things, like we both jump off the edge at the same time not realizing that the other one did it at the same time and then oh shit, gameplay that's self-inflicted, that would have happened on the easiest difficulty.

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That's just us being momos, you know, uh, so, so it's cool to see an even harder difficulty.

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Shit.

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I might, depending on how hard this difficulty is, I might even still petition for one or two higher need, an extreme mode they're also raising now this one's gonna be called nightmare mode for the difficulty.

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They're also raising the level cap to level 60.

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Then they're adding in randomized loot.

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So like we, we've been guilty of this where we'll find a good dungeon, we'll save it after we beat it or because we didn't beat it and we want to do it again, and we'll remember.

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Example, in the first room there's a key right on that stone.

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So then next time you go in there's a key right on that stone.

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So then next time you go in, there's a key right on that stone.

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Now the loot's randomized.

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Now you go in, there might not be a key on that stone, might be some gold or maybe even nothing.

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So that's going to be huge for you know, the ability to kind of nerfing, the ability to farm saved dungeons, because again, that's something.

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Even.

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There's some good ones too.

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Yeah, we've been guilty of it.

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And then, also relevant to the last news, dungeons of Eternity will be adding B-haptic support to it, so that's going to be cool.

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You're sitting there, you get hit by an arrow.

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It might actually help you because you'll be able to feel when it came from.

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Yeah, actually, I just thought of that.

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Now, boom, you already know where to turn, whereas like playing without any haptic device, it would just be like, you know, visual effect.

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Yeah, and that's not always as reliable as even in flat screen.

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Yeah.

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Even though they give you indicators, the where am I getting hit from effect you got to get hit twice to really pay attention.

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So the first time gets your attention and you see like the little white thing.

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And then the second time you're like oh okay, that's weird, but now you just got hit twice, I'd rather get hit once.

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I even remember shooters back in the day when you'd be getting hit.

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It would show you like a red thing around you and it would show you like an arrow on the screen of the direction.

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Well, you know, I haven't played flat screen shooters in so long.

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It's been so VR.

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Heavy VR shooters are, I hate to say, better, because I never like to be comparative like that, but for myself personally, it's just so much more fun being able to aim with my hands than a controller Like flat screen.

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trying to go back of any genre.

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trying to go back to flat screen Shooters is probably the key to flat hardest flat, especially on pc, is a lot of it comes down to your settings.

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So your mouse settings, your fucking how fast your sensitivity settings oh yeah, dude it's like vr is just it feels so much more real.

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I mean, obviously it's you know it's more you than than a mouse and the which you know.

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If you don't have good settings, you're just never going to have that advantage.

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So everyone's on that same playing field, other than Pop 1,.

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They give you some, you know, that type of minimal setting, shit don't matter.

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So huge props to Othergate for continuing to update Dungeons of Eternity, bringing what the community wants.

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