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Welcome to another episode of Rough Talk VR, a weekly podcast with in-depth game reviews, exclusive developer interviews and the latest metaquest and virtual reality news.
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We join our hosts, the Father-Son team of D Scruffles and Stratus, today as they spend another episode breaking down and discussing the world of virtual reality.
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Hey, welcome to this episode of Rough Talk VR, joining you from a beautiful sunshiny day here in Massachusetts.
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In Western Mass?
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Yeah, not always we get such nice sun Part of the state without the accent.
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Yeah, you know it's an oncoming spring when we're excited about, you know, high 50s, but it's beautiful the sun's out, dude, it's gonna be 46, man.
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It's just fucking great.
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I'm opening windows but the the sun's out, it's a beautiful day and we're ready to podcast.
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We got reggie in between us, a whole paper full of notes to talk about.
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It was a good week of vr news, so let's go.
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I mean to kick things off.
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This week we saw into the radius to the studio.
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Behind it dropped an early access, upcoming kind of teaser trailer.
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That was all pc vr gameplay.
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But wow, it looked.
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It looked good.
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Into the radius one was a really good game.
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It's a solo extraction game you go in kind of like horror, spooky themed, but it could be a lot to handle by yourself.
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I mean, it's a dude, just like the way you said that because it's true, you know, the environment itself could be a little nerve-wracking, to say the least, and then it's.
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It's like ghost of tabor, with really good gun mechanics and just extraction based games can be kind of tough sometimes, but the sequel into the radius 2 is going to be co-op and that's it, I mean no pun intended.
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Yeah, no pun intended, I was going to say the same thing.
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And it looks smooth, it looks great.
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Again.
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Granted, the footage they showed was pc vr.
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It's going to be on the quest as well never seen footage of a company like putting out jank footage, though.
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No, you always go for.
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Check this out.
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You always go for the the best of the best in your footage, but I've been sold on the sequel since it was announced that it's going to have co-op, because I loved one.
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I went into it a bunch but just want to go up.
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I get it.
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I would have kept playing more, and I think a lot of players would have gone into it even more too, just because they could have somebody to show them around, teach them the game and show you the ropes no, there seems to be some nice buzz about this, yeah, so studios are wicked cool studio
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as well definitely got to get them on the podcast soon to to talk about it someday.
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Yeah, what I like is there's no doubt that they heard the reception from fans about wanting multiplayer and co-op, and there's no doubt in my mind.
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It's probably it can't be the easiest thing to incorporate in a game this in-depth.
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I mean, come on.
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Well, especially you make it for a single player.
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Yeah.
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So props to them for listening to the community and giving what the fans want, and I'm confident it's going to be one of the best releases this year.
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So if you're, that's a statement.
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If you're unsold on have you tried it yet, sir?
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No, unfortunately.
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The sequel, no.
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But if you're unsold on it yet, go watch the trailer.
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I guarantee your opinions.
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No, the trailer's damn good Guarantee your opinions will start to change.
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And then another cool one that I loved Beat Saber.
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They dropped a new song pack Hip-hop pack, hip hop pack.
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It's a hip hop pack it is, and we did get access to it through the MetaQuest creator program.
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Yes, we did Shout out to that.
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That was cool to be able to get some access to that.
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Which.
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I'm grateful for because I you love Beat Saber.
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Yeah, I get all the DLCs anyways.
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Yeah.
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So, either way, I was not going to not have it.
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If this was back in the days of pre being in the program, you would have just bought it.
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The second the news dropped yeah, that was one of your games you have zero hesitation on, especially if it's artists you like, which.
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This pack was pretty loaded, which I'll go over the songs that are included in a moment.
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But what was really cool about this one dude uncensored First song pack in Beat Saber that's uncensored first song pack.
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And beat saber that's uncensored.
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And then some of the song choices almost feel like they made a point with it as well.
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All right, so what song do they open with which?
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which tupac's well, because it goes, because it goes into its alphabetical order, you know well.
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So okay if you're playing in alphabetical order, so the first song right out of the gate well loaded artist as well.
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We have tupupac All Eyes on Me.
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We have Nicki Minaj Anaconda.
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We have Snoop Dogg, gin and Juice Great song.
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We have.
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I know Tupac and Sippin' on gin and juice.
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Tupac was Made back.
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Tupac was probably my favorite in high school, growing up for hip hop.
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For like classic hip hop artists.
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So for hip-hop, for like classic hip-hop artists.
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So to have him on.
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But then Snoop Dogg as well, come on.
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Snoop Dogg.
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We have Eminem Godzilla featuring Juice WRLD we got OutKast.
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Hey, Ya, we got Biggie Smalls with Hypnotize we got.
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Dr, Dre Nothing but a G-Thing.
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Ain't nothing but a G-Thing.
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We got Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five, the Message, and we got Pop Smoke, the Woo Featuring 50 Cent and Roddy Ricch.
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So I mean, dude, loaded soundtrack, tupac, snoop Dogg, eminem, all uncensored, I know, all uncensored and All Eyes on Me.
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I mean they go pretty hard in that song with explicit language.
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Same with Nicki Minaj, anaconda.
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So because it's in alphabetical, order you buy this pack and you go down it in alphabetical order.
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Those are the first two you come across.
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Well, it's funny when Eminem can be put on a soundtrack and he'd be one of the top three tamest on there for language.
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It might be Out outcast and grandmaster, grandmaster flash yeah, yeah, those two are probably the most tame, but I get what you're saying.
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Mk mm is one of the the more tame flash is, though, the biggest og on that list dude, they did a great job.
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Just to put it out there with the sound for pound, and then I'd probably say um dr dre for sure you know they've done sound and snoop song packs before that are dedicated to one solo artist.
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That, you could argue, is is stacked like lady gaga pack and rolling stones but for, like, diverse artists, this might be their most stacked pack.
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Yeah well, yeah, because I mean, yes, they have the band packs and all that, but they all the other ones are usually a mix of like more the electronic electronic.
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These are big freaking names.
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Yeah, there's not a bad one in the and to have them uncensored and like I said'm like you know, I just I picture like the, the kid who's a little younger than he should be, you know, picking up mom or dad's headset and throwing beat saber on and being like what's this?
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And then you know, as a parent, you potentially are going to have some serious explaining to do.
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That's all I'm saying.
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The reality is.
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I love the freedom now.
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So I'm not upset about that, I'm just thinking of the ooh.
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For me.
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I don't listen to modern hip hop, so I didn't really listen to Nicki Minaj Anaconda before, but I guarantee you all little kids and teenagers going on this have heard that song before, because that's just modern popular music.
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Who knows?
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It's not Taylor Swift, but I love that it's uncensored.
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But they do have an option too.
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I'm not, hey, I'm not saying it shouldn't be, I'm just saying it was a little over the top.
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Well, and to your point about handing your headset over to your kid, they have a setting that you can turn on in the settings that hides all the uncensored tracks.
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So if you have, I mean, hides all the yeah, hides all the uncensored ones.
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So if you have the hip hop hack and you go, all right, I'm going to pass it off to my kid.
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He'll play three songs.
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You can go flip that setting on and then he won't even see those songs on the track list, or she, you know your child will.
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So that's a good option.
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That they included that as well, sure, but I love that.
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I think this is their first one that's uncensored, so I love that they're.
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They're pushing the boundary.
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Now they're going for it.
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Whatever.
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That's what people want.
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I saw the comments to it, like the reaction, and people are like wow, I'll buy it just on the fact that it's uncensored now, because I think they were a little hesitant on it before and then they really just went full 180.
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I you know, I don't know, I love it.
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I love the pack.
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I love the artists Shit, even the ones there's a few on there that I'm not, like, the biggest fan of.
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It sounds great in.
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Beat, saber and VR.
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Well they always do, but I appreciate the fact that they brought that artist in.
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That's actually something that you've said before.
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The fact that they they brought that artist in that's actually something that you've said before is like when beat saber does music it's going to be the best version of that song that you've heard fuck them skinny bitches.
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I'm learning new shit every day.
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I pictured uh, isn't that, what?
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Isn't that what they say in anaconda?
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yeah, and it was funny too, because neither of us listened to that as like our playlist of music when we're on our phone.
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So you played the track, the song pack before me and you were like dude, dude, we got to do this song, yeah you got to hear this you got to hear it.
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You got to hear it and you were so excited to have to play with me with it.
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Yeah, ah, dude.
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I was so excited when we got access to the the pack again for free through the, the meta quest creator program.
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That was freaking exciting.
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I was ready for this.
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I was like we were messaging each other all day like ready for multiplayer, ready for some tupac, ready for some gin and juice, ready to?
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Ah, dude, gin and juice is so fun to play.
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I'd be a saber I used to love that song, so it's like that was a great one.
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But for comical purposes.
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You were excited to show me Anaconda.
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Oh, dude, cause I just I pictured like that.
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I pictured like the little kid waking up in the morning, running downstairs to have cereal On his way to school.
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All the skinny bitches get out the car, hey mom fuck them skinny bitches.
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You know Mom who, like you know, like a yoga mom and shit, works it out sorry if we sound.
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I'm sorry if the language is vulgar too.
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We're just repeating what we heard on beat saber.
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Yeah, I everything's coming out of my mouth.
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I learned on beat saber.
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This is not my fault, no, it's just so.
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It's like that when.
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When I heard that in the song and I believe that's the exact quote from the song I'd have to really pull up the lyrics.
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Pull up the lyrics.
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At least that's what my brain heard hey, you know what I will say too.
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It's not a song I would ever listen to because it's not my type of music, but it's fun in beat saber.
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Listen to it now, even even like though it's not my type of music like playing it in multiplayer in beat saver, it was fun.
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I laughed it was I would play it again.
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I would play it again in multiplayer.
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I'm not gonna lie it has.
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It had one of the best feeling flows in the like, the sound, the song mapping.
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I like big butts, I like big.
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I like big butts and again it just.
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It had a great flow for it.
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It like, felt like to the nanosecond on time.
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so for real, hats off to Beat Saber.
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Yeah, they're making statements with this one, but their choice of artists is like perfect.
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It's like having a full keyboard in front of you.
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Yeah, I wonder what else they're Ridiculous.
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dude To score some of these licensing.
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Does it get Tupac Biggie?
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Tupac, I think would probably be one of the easier ones to get snoop dog.
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You're dealing with people who aren't him, but snoop, I mean snoop's the shit I know and snoop loves games, so it's like what are you gonna do?
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Be like hey, we want to put your music in there.
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And he's be like nah, man, my point being is that they're getting really good.
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Dr trey, that's a good one, last couple of years too.
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Grandmaster Flash, I appreciate the respect Because when I caught wind that they were doing the hip hop pack, I'm like oh, is this going to be like all modern day?
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Shit and it's like no, they went down the whole board, so it's like a walkthrough rap, but you could actually start with, like grandmaster flash and then it's like go to the next, next year's up, and next decade correct, follow it by the years.
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But to hear the innocence of grandmaster, flash and rap, which was, you know, parents were warning their, their other parent, friends like that is rap music and it's like anaconda you listen to what?
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Yeah, dude different in role model big time, you know, I don't know it's up.
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I had fun.
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Fun as hell, though.
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So well, you've mentioned, you know, beat saber.
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Their default, their original soundtrack, so to say, is mostly electronic music.
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Yeah, the game feels really fun with hip-hop.
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Yeah, because hip-hop has got good beats.
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Yeah, I, feel really fun with hip-hop.
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Yeah, because hip-hop's got good beats.
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Yeah, it feels really fun Good beats and good flows.
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I hope that's something that they do again.
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As somebody that loves rock music and petitions for rock song packs and Beat Saber, I cannot lie.
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These good hip-hop songs were good.
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You know, it would be like an awesome who doesn't you know, An awesome flex, and I'd feel so bad for the people that have to map it and Beat Saber would be jazz.
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Mm-hmm.
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That would be fun too.
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Or like Frank Zappa, where like no two instruments are going to be doing the same shit.
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It's like, wow, how do you?
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Yep, there's no easy mode, it's going to tell you to swing, but even though it's there, you're gonna swing anything you know no.
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So again, hats off to beat saber on what is arguably, in my, my opinion, maybe their best song pack yeah, I won't say that they crushed it.
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I'm happy to have in the quiver of good licensed music this was the, as somebody that doesn't go crazy in a beat saber this now give me ping floyd.
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This was the first one that when I heard about it I was like itching for I was real excited to go into.
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So yeah, I'm hats off to the stones too yeah, the rolling stones is is up there as well, I love the stones.
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It's just that I don't want to be critical because you can't appease, you can't have a perfect set list.
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I just remember I don't have.
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I have all the tracks in front of me, the stones one, but I remember there being a lot of songs that I wish were on it well that I weren't that's like they have such a big roster of songs.
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It's like taking the grateful dead and being like, okay, you're gonna get 12 songs from a catalog of you know a thousand can you imagine grateful dead ones?
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it's like, especially for slide performances?
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Yeah, that won't work.
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Fire, fire on the mouth.
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That won't work is when you 20 minutes.
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When you put it to paper, it's like 20 minutes.
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Holy shit they're really like When's this end?
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So when you put it to paper they're not really on time and shit.
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You know it's just like this Free-flowing, yeah, free-flowing shit.
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But it would be funny, just for length I'd put it up there with jazz.
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It would be a pain in the ass to program.
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But no, I want to see Iron Maiden.
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I'd love to see an Iron Maiden pack.
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Those are all long-ass songs and then I'd freaking love to see a Pink Floyd back At this point.
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I'm pretty confident in their ability to secure licensing.
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So let's see what comes in the future.
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Yeah.
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It's probably already in the works.
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I mean not probably.
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There's no doubt that they have more stuff in the works.
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That studio never stops.
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You know, it's crazy for them to do one last thing before we move on to the other ones.
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At least on my end, it was crazy for them to do this too, because it's a meta owned studio, yeah, which probably helps them with the licensing side, but I mean for them to go the whole uncensored route.
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That was, that was.
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I appreciate the freedom.
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Hey, this wasn't even on my list of notes and stuff.
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But just last night this is Sunday, so just last night, saturday Andrew Bosworth, the CTO of Meta, and Palmer Luckey had an interesting little back and forth Old school wars on the internet baby, on Twitter, where basically John Karamack, he made a tweet basically saying he wish he stuck up for Palmer Lucky more during his outing because it was probably wasn't the thing to say because it was very political based.
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And then Palmer Lucky basically said thank you to John.
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Well, let me fast forward.
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So so, john care, let me go backwards.
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John Karamack said you know, I wish I stuck up for Palmer Lucky more and in fact Amanda Watson even quoted the tweet.
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John Kermack, let me go backwards.
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John Kermack said you know, I wish I stuck up for Palmer Luckey more.
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And in fact Amanda Watson even quoted the tweet and chimed in.
